@jerome Wow. Interesting. No in fact 20 people voted. Which still is a lot less than I expected/hoped.
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@gustav Och RSS-flöden till betal-lÀnkar... det gör ont i mig...
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@gustav Jag vill ha kakan, Ă€ta den, ge bort den, tvinga ner den i halsen pĂ„ dig och framför allt vill jag ha betalt för den. đ€Ș
@me Ha, that was supposed to be a direct message. Oh well.
In my case I lost almost all followers. I had 3,600 followers. My profile lists 1,020 followers. But only about 25 of those people can actually see my posts. Most of those followed this account before the migration.
Trying to not let it bother me too much, but itâs hard. đ
@AnetteS Tack för förklaring Anette, exakt som jag misstÀnkte.
@m đ Keep me posted.
My migration appears to be more broken than I thought. Many of the people who are listed as following me, arenât actually following me. They can only see âWithdraw follow requestâ on my profile đ
How are you seeing this post? (boosts welcome)
A total of 20 people voted in this poll and 12 of those people follow me. I donât know whether to laugh or cry⊠đ
@shanselman
Ha. Fascinating. Likely you can withdraw request and follow âagain' and that will trigger a regular follow.
@nova
I have updated the infographic The many branches of the Fediverse to version 3.0.
This update includes some new connections and makes more clear that it is software that makes use of the ActivityPub protocol specifically that can be seen as part of the #Fediverse.
The diagram also includes adjacent protocols and these are to encourage further discussion around the concept of federated social networks.
Most questions that people tend to have around this infographic are answered in the blog post, but I am always happy to talk about suggested changes and additions.
@nova
Oh interesting! Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
In my case the missing 2,600 followers are in limbo as they are no longer at the old account either.
My idea at first was that one cause for this could be short-time users of Mastodon who just tried out the service 1-2 times and then haven't logged in again, thus not triggering the re-follow. Not sure if this is a realistic theory.
In my case there is the added complexity of moving to an Akkoma instance, so I'm guessing there are issues with this as well.
I do now have examples of people who are listed in my followers list not actually following me (they have the "Withdraw follow request" button). I also have people who are following me but are not listed in my profile as followers đ
@shanselman
@openrightsgroup
Does giving up first name and last name really have to be compulsory for a newsletter? đ
Does it look like you are waiting for approval from me for a follow request?
Some weirdness after my #migration to this account (from Mastodon to Akkoma):
I have reports of people looking at my profile and seeing the action "Withdraw request" instead of follow.
But I don't have approval of follows activated. Any follow should work immediately.
My theory is that this is due to a timeout when I migrated and many accounts automatically tried to follow my new account at the same time, essentially triggering a DDoS attack on my own server. When that timed out, the action (button) got stuck in this state.
The only way to follow me in these cases appears to be to withdraw (click the button) and click follow again. Or wait days/weeks for the servers to renegotiate.
Unless someone with ActivityPub/Mastodon skills knows how to trigger those re-follows (and move requests) again?
So @nova has written a great post that @Beantin found for me.
It goes into the mechanics of #migrating, how this can trigger a denial of service attack on your own server, and how renegotiation of follows can take days, weeks or longer(!)
Experimenting with Federation and Migrating Accounts
Also, @nova talked with @shanselman on his podcast about running a Mastodon Server.
@lalle @dagensnyheter
đ Det hĂ€r Ă€r en bra intervju med Eberhard och Tarpenning som grundade Tesla. Musk Ă€r vĂ€l Teslas fjĂ€rde VD om jag inte missminner mig.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/06/tesla-founders-martin-eberhard-marc-tarpenning-on-elon-musk.html
I see similar experiences all the time. It makes you realise just how much the recommendation algorithms have been in control over the content that influences us, rather than the human participants.
Beautiful piece by @ewen about Mastodon and the Fediverse.
Great description of how social media platforms donât suddenly disappear but instead âerode slowly like a Ship of Theseus morphing into the Wreck of the Hesperusâ
And some great explanation on how recommendation algorithms ruin experiences.
âOver time the algorithms get mean.â â But the Fediverse is ultimately a place where you can set the boundaries without being gamed by an algorithm.â
@mookie Wohoo!! Given that this is the first year ever I am playing around with servers Iâm feeling pretty awesome about making this happen.
@m
Hetzner here. But I misspoke. This server is actually in Finland!
Okay, if anyone is seeing this I managed to move this instance from a server in Sweden to a server in Germany (edit: Oops. Actually: Finland), managing to copy and restore the database, and hopefully keeping most stuff intact⊠đ
If things are âmisbehavingâ for a while longer itâs because the domain name has moved to a new ip address and that pointer has to be removed and refreshed in various caching systems.
I am learning so much and having great fun experimenting, I have to say.