I almost signed up for Gaggle Mail even though it's US-based. I figured at least they seem to have good sense in seeing the value of email for discussion groups. And then while trialing I saw they have a function to summarise email discussions via ChatGPT that is *turned on by default*. I mean, wtaf.
So I'm deciding on self-hosting Mailman. It always seems to come back to self-hosting in the end, doesn't it... which is not nearly easy enough for most people to grapple with.
My message to Gaggle Mail:
I just want to let you know that I decided not to continue evaluating your service after I noticed that you have a setting to use ChatGPT from OpenAI turned on by default.
Among many other things, OpenAI is Trump's biggest donor and used by ICE.
It is one of the most morally corrupt companies in operation today and it was hugely disappointing to me to see a company that embraced the classic listserv platform (yay!) also integrating the worst-of-the-worst.
Having the full message thread sent to OpenAI felt like a bizarre default feature to not be more open about. I'd suggest you also clearly warn users about its inherent risks.